And orphan crow. The court has had about 4 months to reject the appeal. And the court has places it on their docket. They also have granted an extension for the initial brief. These are all indications that the court will not reject at least hearing it. And if the court does reject hearing it, then the sanctions clock would pick back up.
Richard Oliver
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
Hysteria may not have been the best word to use. But if you don't think there aren't some false accusations you are foolish. Again I never said it is common and it maybe only a few but it does happen. -
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
We will see what the appeals court will have to say. If anyone is interested there are 4 law libraries in California, who has a database to appeals court briefs. I know one is at the LA law library, but currently the website says their online database is down and it been saying that for a while, so if you are in LA you can stop by or you can ask the reference librarian if they know what is the other law libraries that do it online.
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
I am sure some do do that because they want to cash in on the hysteria or because they want to get back at someone or Watchtower. But is that a lot of people, I really doubt it.
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
That is what the 4th discrict of the California appeals court has ruled. That is why, in the Lopez case the terminating sactions were reversed and was remanded back to the trial court with instructions. The court ruled that loach is not a manager, member of the board or have any legal authority over Watchtower and Watchtower has no authority over him. -
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
The question maybe, and the appeals court brought this up, is does the code require a sanction of 4000 and therefore under the 5000 threshold. Or does the code allow for a cumlitave total that is over 5000. The court made that response when Watchtower first appealed and they allowed Watchtower to respond and the accepted the response. The case has been docketed and Watchtower initial briefs are due in February.
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
I never said that there is going one way or the other. But until the appeals court rules the proceedings are stayed, so the sanctions are stayed as well. The appellate court can reinstate the sanctions but it is up to the appeals court. It very well maybe a frivolous appeal but they are appealing as the law allows. The appeals court is not a selective court, if there is an appeal as defined by the code of civil procedure, the appeals court must hear it.
Again it maybe frivolous but the court of appeals for the 4th district has ruled that a non named third party who doesn't have control over the named party or is not under the authority of the named party cannot be compelled to give deposition or be compelled to testify. The Mississippi or Louisiana appellate court also recently decided that Watchtower has no control over CCJW and cannot compel either to testify in a civil proceeding.
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
The trial court proceedings are on stayed. The order for sanctions are stayed because padron has received the watchtower documents, though redacted, so now it is up to the appeals court to determine how much padron gets and how redacted it is. According to California rules of evidence any sanctions over 5000 dollars can be appealed.
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
Life is too short. I just stated the facts with no spin. Those are facts. The padron case is on appeal and there is a stay in proceedings at the trial court level. And the judge in the Lopez is hearing a motion for summary judgment and stayed the ex parte hearing on the sanctions. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean it isn't true.
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
I am just someone who looks at court websites. U can look yourself. I also paid the 60 bucks for the Lopez filings for the protective order. If anyone wants them I am sure I can send them, I don't think they are copyrighted and there is no danger in distributing the ones I purchased